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		<title>Top 5 reasons to turn down a client</title>
		<link>http://www.dootch.com/2010/05/top-5-reasons-to-turn-down-a-client/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 01:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve written before about how turning down clients is necessary to grow as a freelancer, but today I want to focus on signals that alert you that this job might be a good one to turn down. 1. The client is quote shopping. Government departments are great at this. They send you an email with [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve written before about how <a href="http://www.dootch.com/2010/01/growing-by-turning-down-work/">turning down clients is necessary to grow as a freelancer</a>, but today I want to focus on signals that alert you that this job might be a good one to turn down.</p>
<p><strong>1. The client is quote shopping. </strong>Government departments are great at this. They send you an email with a 20 page brief they&#8217;ve prepared, and want you to send back a quote to go along with the 20 other quotes they&#8217;re collecting.</p>
<p>Have you ever gone to a government website and seen how crap it was? Well it&#8217;s because they go with a cheap company that invariably don&#8217;t care about anything but fulfilling the conditions of the contract.</p>
<p>My advice: Save the effort and don&#8217;t even bother reading their brief. As soon as it&#8217;s clear that they&#8217;re collecting quotes, turn it down. My one exception is if you&#8217;re in a state of growth and you&#8217;re happy to take a pain in the arse job for the sake of building credibility.</p>
<p><strong>2. The client wants too much. </strong>A small startup contacts you and wants you to do a site for them. They have a huge feature list which you know to do properly will cost $50k and they want to &#8220;just start small and build from profits&#8221;.</p>
<p>These jobs should come with a scope creep warning attached to them. You&#8217;ll do the job and a list of revisions come back that look a lot like features. You say it&#8217;s not part of the scope and suddenly they realise the brevity of the job they&#8217;ve asked for.</p>
<p>These jobs aren&#8217;t worth it. The exception is if the buyer is experienced in dealing with developers and understand things like scope.</p>
<p><strong>3. The client wants it cheap. </strong><a href="http://www.dootch.com/2010/04/were-a-non-profit-can-you-do-it-cheap/">Cheap like this non profit business</a>. The problem with doing work cheap is that if you always do it, eventually you&#8217;ll figure out that you&#8217;re not making enough money and you&#8217;ll end up in a cubicle working 9-5 because that actually pays the bills.</p>
<p>Buyers that want cheap work can pull their hair out trying to speak Indian.</p>
<p><strong>4. The client will be a pain in the arse. </strong>If the client has been through 5 designers already. If the client is controlling the quoting process. If you missed one of the earlier signs but have a gut feeling that it&#8217;s going to be bad. If you have no clear contact who is in charge of the project. If your contact has no authority within the client organisation. If you&#8217;ve heard bad things from the grape vine.</p>
<p>All signs that you&#8217;re better off sending an email saying</p>
<blockquote><p>Thanks for contacting me for a quote on your website. After looking through the design brief I’ve decided that our services aren’t a good match for your particular needs, and that you’ll get a better solution from a different provider.</p>
<p>Best of luck with it all.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>5. The project is going to fail. </strong>Sometimes I&#8217;ll get someone looking for a quote for a website, and I talk to them a bit about their idea, and it&#8217;s just a terrible idea. Maybe they need a shitload of money that they don&#8217;t have. Or something else that just sounds ridiculous.</p>
<p>My advice: Stay away from shitty ideas. It&#8217;s no fun being around someone who&#8217;s going to blow some cash, and it&#8217;s even less fun when they blow it on you.</p>
<p><strong>Summary</strong></p>
<p>Our job is to educate clients, but sometimes, it&#8217;s impossible. And when it&#8217;s impossible, you&#8217;re saving yourself time and money when you politely decline before the situation turns bad.</p>


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		<title>Dealing with painful micromanager clients</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every freelancer has had them &#8211; the client that wants things exactly different. Sometimes they ruin the design and don&#8217;t make sense, sometimes it&#8217;s personal preference. What we need to do, is educate our clients from the beginning. Feedback has to be objective and customer focused. If you&#8217;re dealing with a committee, get one person [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every freelancer has had them &#8211; the client that wants things exactly different. Sometimes they ruin the design and don&#8217;t make sense, sometimes it&#8217;s personal preference.</p>
<p>What we need to do, is educate our clients from the beginning. Feedback has to be objective and customer focused. If you&#8217;re dealing with a committee, get one person who can sign off on the design, and explain that personal preferences creates an environment where &#8220;too many cooks spoil the broth&#8221;. I try and do this early in the process, in the kickoff meeting or even in the sales process. Give examples of ideal feedback.</p>
<p>Have reasonings behind decisions. And not reasoning like &#8220;if it can&#8217;t be that color, I want to stab myself in the eye&#8221; or &#8220;reducing the padding makes me think it looks cramped&#8221;, but reasoning like &#8220;if we put that there, the page is going to get cluttered and the desired action we talked about for this page is less obvious&#8221;.</p>
<p>Take the time to go through design decisions with the client. Explain to them the design decisions in terms of objectives.</p>
<p>Despite that, there are still going to be clients that make you want to stab yourself in the eye. In these cases where I&#8217;ve educated the client, explained my reasoning and I&#8217;m still not getting anywhere, I happily turn my brain off, get the client to break down broad feedback into specific feedback, document all requests (because they contradict all the time) and just do what I&#8217;ve been asked to do. <a href="http://www.dootch.com/2010/01/you-arent-designing-for-yourself/">After all, it&#8217;s the clients design, not mine</a>. Once clients get to this stage, they&#8217;re not concerned with having the best work, they&#8217;re concerned with having it look exactly how they want it.</p>
<h3>Your turn</h3>
<p>What was your last experience with a micromanaging client? How did you get through it?</p>


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